Re: serious work

Dennis Diamond (
Sun, 7 Sep 1997 12:29:24 -0400

re: Steve's letter about Sarah.. Please note I only saw Steve's letter and
missed the discussion
and based upon my experience: Bad reviews spread like wildfire while good
reviews are over
looked" This is a small experimental field. All projects need to be
encouraged. If any of you saw my
first performance YY years ago you would have begged me to quit!


> From: Stephan Koplowitz <>
> To:
> Subject: Re: serious work
> Date: Friday, September 05, 1997 6:24 PM
>,Internet writes:
> so i must take exception to
> "(or perhaps _particularly_ its attendant hype) is more
> likely to hurt serious work with dance and technology than promote it."
> 'cuz a truely 'serious' piece - will sooner or later - stand on its own
> its not the presence of "failed to be serious" work that hurts dance and
> technology it is its absence
> so's i have a question to you dance techer's ... what is serious work?
> where is it? ... why do we need it?
> Dear Nik,
> Thank you so much for your response (the whole thing..)
> Look, I don't know what the protocol is in these listserv's etc....and
> I missed something, but if Sarah is actually the choreographer or the
> most responsible for "leaping into the net" performance, I frankly found
> Povall's response to her work quite unfair to Sarah...surely those words
> have been sent to her privately (perhaps he could have initiated a
> with her prior to making his post...)....this kind of posting makes me
> question what is the real purpose of this group? Someone help me out
here, what
> did the folks who started this group intend? Is it to rip into people's
> in front of an audience of readers many of whom have not seen the same
> This doesn't seem to be bringing anyone "together" or seem to make for a
> inviting atmosphere for dialogue and exchange...I'm not saying that Mr.
> should in anyway change his opinion about the work or not share it but
> kind of instant dialogue with a 100 people can get's like
being at
> a party with a bunch of people and then stopping everyone's conversations
> say: "hey everyone, Sarah's work sucked! just thought you should know!"
> Etiquette at such a gathering would be to approach Sarah and ask her a
> did she feel the concert went? What would she do
> next time? What were her GOALS and intentions...? We have this technology
> enables us to contact people easily and privately, it would seem we
should use
> it with discretion....but I'm sure I've got the wrong model of what this
> listserv or any listserv is but I can't help but write that I felt quite
> chill by Mr. Povalls words and to be fair to him, perhaps he did not mean
> them to come off as "chilly" as they did....
> "Sorry to seem so negative, Sarah if you're listening...." Is Sarah a
part of
> this listserv? If she is not, it would be fair for Mr. Povall to have
sent his
> post to her too....I'm assuming she is a member and will ultimately
"listen" to
> his words.....
> Personally, I have no interest in making "serious work" or anything
> resembling anything connected to nonlinear, non-narrative whatever....if
> signed up somewhere to pass that litmus test get me out of here....terms
> "serious work" are terms that ultimately have no a work less
> serious because it is popular? is Pop music less serious than
> concert fare? Did the Beatles write "serious" music or was it Charles
Ives? or
> no, not him, he sold insurance....I've made several dances in my career
> dancers who have little or no "serious" dance trainning and I've
presented the
> work as part of my seasons here in New York...does that make it less
> The work I present for the stage is accessible, easily understood by all
> audiences..does that make the work less "serious"? If so...well, I wear
> badge of making less "serious" work proudly...
> The other aspect of Mr. Povall's posting that gave me pause is that it
> that there was a "right" way or a more "pure" method to use dance and
> technology (" A few screens from Netscape mocked up in Director does not
> make for a dialog between live dance and the virtual world")
> The product may not always speak to everyone intellectually, politically
> spiritually or whatever but I think a view of our place in time, a
> that takes into a account that so much of what we are calling "advanced"
> "sophisticated" etc technology will be viewed as "elementary"
"prehistoric" etc
> in a few years time....surely Sarah's concert in Cleveland isn't going to
> the march of "progress"...
> >From what I can tell, Sarah is interested in reaching new also
> sounds like she wants to somehow present an aspect of her online
experience to
> an audience....sounds great....she also got a lot of publicity for her
> (good for her!)....that is wonderful and in this day when the arts are
> attacked in Congress etc, this can't really hurt anyone...
> I'll stop now....
> Steve
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> Packer Collegiate Institute
> Brooklyn, NY USA