Re: references/

Sandi Kurtz (
Sun, 4 Jan 1998 22:36:17 -0800 (PST)

I'm not sure I agree with your desire to get permission to quote from an
electronic author in order to quote them in other writing. It seems to me
that posting a website is tantamount to publishing, and that the standard
rules of attribution would apply (although considering the malleable
nature of web published materials it's very important to pin down the date
of the work you're citing)

Messages to a listserv or a newsgroup could be different -- they're more
private and often written in more haste. Perhaps they should be treated
as private correspondance is now?

Just a thought.

sandi kurtz

On Wed, 31 Dec 1997, Johannes Birringer wrote:

> Mary-Lou asked
> Does anyone know what the academic procedure is for referencing
> >email/internet resources? Nobody seems to know.
> >
> I suggest the following:
> 1. For an email correspondence, simply write: "References are to my
> email correspondence with.......[or to email letter from........] on
> [date]. Quoted with permission of the author.
> If you are quoting from a list correspondence, use some phrase like the
> above and mention that the correspondence took place in the ........list or
> mailgroup [e.g. 'dance & technology zone mailgroup -
>]. I would give the name/address of the
> mailgroup, if it's a group that is in existence for a while, and if you
> have permission from the listmembers to quote from their posts.
> 2. If you quote from someone's website, ask for permisson from the webpage
> artist/designer and then quote the webpage address, and date when you
> downloaded the information. [e.g Quoted from Stelarc, Home Page
> <>. The version I downloaded was shown on
> the Web on October 14, 1996]
> This is what I did in my new book, there were no guidelines, so I made
> them up, and publisher agreed.Publishers want to make sure that you have
> permission to quote from the webpage author or CD-Rom author [distributor].
> This can get particuarly important if you quote sound or video files, since
> I think it is comparable to quoting from a song from an album that is
> copyrighted/licenced, or from a TV program. In those cases you need to get
> permission from the record company or the TV producer.
> Happy New Year everyone,
> Johannes Birringer
> Houston