On Tue, 26 Jan 1999, Barry Smylie wrote:
> Yes... Avi I agree when all the cable subscribers (in numbers like telephone
> subscription) are wired in two way transmissions then the political ramifications will
> be enormous. Government will certainly become a sort of participatory democracy like
> those forums of our Grecian mythos.
>
> My presumption is... internet art on the grand scale will be more labor intensive and
> much more expensive than the performance and production of television serials. I
> think we should be banding together now under the playful auspices of such file trees
> as Duchimp so that we can be in line online and at least partially ready for digital
> compliance.
>
> We have to make a kitty and advance our programming skills into JAVA and JINNI and the
> construction of virtual environmental multi-player scenario structures using our art
> as clues and queues for participation.
>
> That's why I proposed you me and Jeff working on those inter language iconic signs
> posted in airport terminals and hospitals that you have been fixing on in your frantic
> animation... a truly international medium requires a inter cultural visually (rather
> than verbally) based communication - entertainment structure... a visual grammar.
>
> Considering that you are multilingual (at least three languages right?) and placed in
> a war zone you should head the project... you should be highly motivated to make
> peace... let's do it... give us some instruction and direction.
>
> http://members.tripod.com/duchimp
>
> Avi Rosen wrote:
>
> > with web-TV more then 95% of western population is loged to the net.
> > one can create, participate, or consume art from his living room. much
> > less formal & expensive than the traditional way (museum, studio, art
> > materials, time, etc.)
> >
> > > - there is pleasure of the body in the old time materials
> >
> > this is exactly my feeling when making my electronic art!
> >
> > _________________________________
> > Avi Rosen, Media Artist
> > EE Faculty,
> > Technion I.I.T.
> > Israel 32000.
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> > E-mail: avi@savyon.technion.ac.il
> > http://www.technion.ac.il/~ravi/
> > ---------------------------------
> > On Mon, 25 Jan 1999, Barry Smylie wrote:
> >
> > > yes exactly and especially artists
> > > artists could always count on our old (original tool and face paint) charcoal
> > > and
> > > the best mediums do not require complicated viewing devices - like expensive
> > > frames
> > > but
> > > the internet (through cheap consumer web tv and 2002 digital compliance when the
> > > $300 external digital descrambler must be built into the set and all
> > > transmissions must be primarily digital - although an analog carrier will be
> > > allowed at broadcaster's decision) might be the most important and approachable
> > > and mass age appropriate medium.... your computer might not be the consumer
> > > machine - it might be a studio tool... the tv itself will probably be the way
> > > that the average person views your work
> > >
> > > but that still leaves the walls barren and lifeless
> > >
> > > i like to use my hands in ways other than this limited typing and mouse handling
> > > - there is pleasure of the body in the old time materials
> > >
> > > http://members.tripod.com/duchimp
> > >
> > > the infinite monkeys actively seek your critical and academic "papers" please
> > >
> > >
> > > Judith Bailey wrote:
> > >
> > > > This is so deep....however have some forgotten that not everyone can purchase
> > > > a computer with all the appropiate software? The unfortunate ones will have
> > > > to continue to worship the god of the inexpensive paper and pencil.
> > > > Materialism is in the eye of the beholder!
> > > >
> > > > Judith
> > > > http://art.net/~judith/
> > > >
> > > > Barry Smylie wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > > >i cannot bear the tactile nature of 250 gram hand laid rag paper
> > > > > > >my fingers caressing it and thinking of paris rag pickers
> > > > > > >i cannot confront the hundreds of hours of planning and drawing and
> > > > > > >etching
> > > > > > >the grinding of stone on stone - the vent of fumes
> > > > > > >i loath the idea of rushes and revisions on plates
> > > > > > >trying to dissuade the "artist" away from labor intensive revisions
> > > > > > >the shear effort of it
> > > > > >
> > > > > > this is very dificult situation for a generation educated in a
> > > > > > traditional material culture, to switch from a
> > > > > > action in material world to a virtual one. its like worshiping a 'God'
> > > > > > with no aqppirance instad of a material idol.
> > > > > > Avi.
> > > > >
> > > > > for me (smylie:) .avi i find it difficult to maintain my ties with the old
> > > > > world art idol
> > > > > i am loosing my grip on materialism
> > > > > i am caught in a spiritualist votex digital black whole multimedia thing
> > > > >
> > > > > is it wise to be drawn drawing so far from the actuality of stone
> > > > > of cast epoxy resin
> > > > > of acrylic emulsion on nylon canvas?
> > > > >
> > > > > is the internet
> > > > > like the academy
> > > > > a read only crashed herring
> > > > > drug
> > > > > along
> > > > > the path?
> > > > >
> > > > > pilgrim.avi
> > >
> > >
> > >
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