Re: Research on dance & tech

Jos Neutgens (
Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:38:59 +0200

> First I want to say hello to everybody, and how much I've been
> appreciating this list's discussions and in-out puts,
> Algoritms and the body response to Richard and Johannes:
> I think the problem of the "emptied (post) modernist from" its very much
> still around us in this new hybrid work with technology, by keeping that
> emptiness of reflexion on the medium itself, if it relyes to much on the
> technological algoritms for content, even using it in task,improvisation
> oriented work(?)
> It depends very much to what end the algoritms and interactions are
> created for, instead for an end in itself. When the body come into play,
> alone or interactions with algoritmic devices or other computer
> applications in performance, there should be some aim, concept, which
> driven it, as I think Richard suggest with this fresh thread.
> I think the best way to achieve this is by searching the movement, sound,
> and visual elements interaction using computer in a 'feed-back&forward'
> dialogue. This way we challenge the possibilities of the computer and the
> way we use it.
> To Jos Neutgens:
> It was amazing to know about the similarities of content between your film
> project and the dance video performance/installation I've been working in,
> presenting already to works in progress of different phases of it.
> My work developed from the need to bring to light the imagery involved in
> moving from the body functions themselves (from the BMC perspective). For
> this I digitally edited appropriations from the CDROM The Ultimate Human
> Body. Then I went further in my concept from looking at medical and new
> surgery methods, and authopsia, as well as sci-fi movies on cyborgs, and
> developed a commentary about the body is perceived in western medicine,
> and the pop culture vehiculated notion of our future (?) embodiment as
> hybrid beings. For this I elaborated more short videos and juxtaposed them
> in different ways with movement and action situations. The peculiarity of
> it is that I'm exploring (as I know others doing) the mobility of the
> screens.
> Anyway I felt that was interesting for you to know, as it was for me.
> And I would be very intersted to follow up the development of your
> collaboration.
> To Scott:
> It's very truth what you say about the lack of initiatives in the states
> regarding dance for the camera. I can talk from San Francisco, where I did
> some reserach on that. For the past to years I've been here there is just
> starting two series directed to this trend. But it seems that it is
> getting hot. In May it's happening the second ZOOM/Visual Poetics at ODC
> Performance Gallery, but later others will come. They call for submission
> nationwide ZOOM c/o Film Arts Foundation, 346 Nith Street, SF, CA 94110.
> It was also very helpful your info about the past dance & tech conferences
> for research purposes, as I'm in the process of writing my MA thesis on
> challenging body perceptions through dance application of new
> technologies. The "New Kinaethetic of the Twentieth Century" from Hillel
> Schwartz is really a mark stone on dance and tech connection througout the
> beginning of the century. And it seems that approachs like that need to be
> thinked as a base for the recent interactions with the new technologies
> not just by dance but all realms of human activity/life.
> Beijinhos,
> Isabel

Hi Isabel,

I was very pleased with your message and the shared interest in the
Visible Human Project.
I would like to ask a few things about this part of your project. You
wrote, that you did use the CD Rom "the Ultimate Human Body". Could you
tell me more about this CD Rom version? For instance: does this CD Rom
contain animations of the crossections or only "photographic" (hereby I
mean not moving stills) images. High quality animations are most
interesting for our filmproject. What about the quality of the images,
are they in high resolution. This is very important to, because one way
or another I have to transfer these images to film. Who is selling this
CD Rom, and for which platform (Windows, Macintosh) is this CD suitable.
Could you tell me something about your digital editing of the CD Rom
As stated before, I'm very interested in the animations through the
human body. If they don't exist on the CD Rom you used, do you have any
idea where I could find them?
I hope to speak to you soon!


Jos Neutgens

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